The Other Others is a podcast under the Indigenous Systems Knowledge Lab at Deakin Unviersity (Australia), hosted by Tyson Yunkaporta. On the 21st of March, 2023, I had a yarn with Tyson on the Mahd research project and my process with it. Below is the description of the episode:

"Ahmed Buasallay is working on a placed-based dialogue process grounded in Arab customary logics, but is struggling in communities on the peninsula where it is becoming increasingly difficult to access nature. He is also finding it challenging to access communities of practice in the Systems Thinking space, and so we also yarn about those often invisible obstacles to change makers and sense makers far removed from the center of the Anglosphere."